Cornelia Parker Meets Rebecca Stephens / Andrew Gifford Meets Dave Allen - ACE357.2

Tilda Swinton asleep in the glass box in Cornelia Parker’s installation, The Maybe (1995). Other objects displayed in the work. Photographs of the garden shed, its blowing up, and the reassembly of the fragments, Cold Dark Matter: an Exploded View (1991), shortlisted for the 1997 Turner Prize. Parker talks about wanting her "date" to be some kind of traveller or explorer. Rebecca Stephens, mountaineer, on a snow-covered mountain. Stephens talks about "passion" – to paint and to climb mountains. Her voice over a shot of her climbing, and over a picture of Parker’s Shirt Burnt by a Meteorite (1996), short-listed for the 1997 Turner Prize. Parker with a feather from a pillow from Sigmund Freud’s couch. Stephens wonders about what makes a piece of "modern art". Parker’s Exhaled Blanket (1996). Wire. Bubbles. Parker lying on Freud’s couch, listening to Stephens’s voice describing a day’s climbing on Everest. Stephens on a climb. Parker in Stephens’s house. She shows Stephens some objects she’s collected. Stephens shows some of her souvenirs. Stephens looking at photographs of some of Parker’s work, including Thirty Pieces of Silver (1989). Stephens shows Parker slides of her climbs. Parker and Stephens going up to the Whispering Gallery in St Paul’s Cathedral; at the top of the Cathedral. Parker talks about the ideas she is thinking about for her art work. Stephens on the climbing wall underneath the Hammersmith Flyover. Her VO talks about the way Parker constantly collects bits and pieces that she finds. Parker in St Paul’s. Collecting fluff and dust from the Whispering Gallery. Stephens climbing. Her VO on Parker’s dust collecting. Parker in her darkroom, using dust and fluff to make slides. Her VO on fluff and using "a relic as a negative". The resulting images. A photograph of grooves in a gramophone record that belonged to Adolf Hitler. She wonders if the jacket Stephens wore on Everest is made of feathers, considering making a photogram from some of them. Feathers. Parker hanging two photograms. Stephens hoping she likes the finished work. The two women look at the photograms of feathers and fluff. Parker presents Stephens with earplugs made of fluff from the Whispering Gallery. The finished photograms.